Genesis Invisible
Genesis Invisible
Jacob wrestled with God and won? (Genesis 32:24–32)?
Currently I think or believe that the man who fought with Jacob (Genesis 32:24–32) was a theophany (visible manifestation of God) through an angel (Hosea 12:2–4). So, God appeared to Jacob as an angel so that Jacob could see God. Remember guys, “God is Spirit” (John 4:24) and therefore invisible to humans (Colossians 1:15; 1 Timothy 1:17; Hebrews 11:27).
THE PROBLEM I am having now is that how can the man who fought with Jacob be God if Jacob won the fight against the man? Can God lose a fight, especially to a human like Jacob?
I have answered your questions before on this topic, so for indepth information please refer back to them. But I will give you a new illustration now.
consider AN INTERPRETER between two people that speak different languages (man A, interpreter B and man C)
Man A doesn't speak directly to man C, he speaks through interpreter B. But man A may still properly speak to interpreter B AS IF he were actually speaking directly to man C. Interpreter B is not the same person as man C, but does have a certain representative equality with man C.
You must drop this whole "theophany" sillyness. He wrestled with a simple angel like the Scriptures say, representing and speaking for God. The angel had representative equality with God, so he was addressed as such, but he was not God himself. That is why, as you said, God can't lose a fight.
Aga'pe
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